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justice and want that done fairly. i feel the processes were taken to react to what's there. but while at the same time, keep safety is very important. peace and justice are the same. the only way they'll get them both is if we're safe and get a clear view of the facts. >> president obama, while condemning the rioters and looters who he pointed out were a small percentage of those here, he also seemed to criticize the police force for overring, for not having respect for individuals, freedom of assembly, et cetera. do you share those concerns? >> there were a lot of people out there last night. there will be folks out tonight. we're preparing for zones for folks so they can have the zones for protest. when a small band of lawless folks comes in the shooing guns as there was a shooting last night, as there were shots at the police, we need to go to a heightened level of security so
members of the public aren't hurt, the press aren't hurt. that's why the reaction last night and today has been one-ton protect the right of individuals to do business to protect the right of individuals to speak their voice and to let us get both peace and justice in the long run. so like i said, i had a good talk with the president today. he was interested what's going on on the ground. we're stend spending a lot of time trying to make sure we calibrate these responses to balance the difficult challenges. last night when you had shots fired on the police, last night when you had their command center charged by hundreds of folks in a violent manner and they were able to stave off that without firing at these folks, without getting hit, you know, these are trained folks. i think that the members of the guard we've got coming in to help protect that are trained. we have a lot of confidence with a lot of work with general mason and his team working under the command structure there and will make for a calmer night.
>> let's hope for peace, governor jay nixon, thank you so much. let's turn it over right now to brianna keilar filling in for wolf blitzer in "the situation room." >> thanks, jake. happening now a "situation room" special report. breaking news. city on the edge. the national guard is called in after protests spiral into violence and there's no curfew tonight in ferguson, missouri. is that an invitation for more trouble. shot six times, an occupiautops ordered by his family reveals michael brown's body was riddled with bullet wounds. plus, obama speaks out. the president addresses the violence in ferguson as the federal government investigates the shooting. wolf blitzer is off. i'm brianna keilar. you're in "the situation room."
our breaking news, there are fresh appeals for calm. ferguson, missouri, after peaceful protests collapsed into chaos with gunshots, firebombs, clouds of tear gas in the streets. here are the latest developments. an independence autopsy ordered by michael brown's family shows the teen was shot at least six times, including two wounds to the head. he was not shot at close range but a supporter of officer darren wilson says there was a struggle, that brown at one point grabbed for wilson's gun as was shot when he charged the officer. a source with knowledge of the investigation confirms that matches wilson's account of the shooting. now, missouri's governor has called in the national guard after what he calls coordinated attacks both on civilians and law enforcement officers, but he says ferguson will not be under curfew tonight. our correspondents and guests are standing by with full coverage and we begin with cnn national correspondent jason
carroll in ferguson, missouri. what are you learning? >> all right. we're having technical difficulties there with jason's signal. >> six bullets struck. >> veteran forensic pathologist dr. baden and his team were brought in by the brown family to perform an independent autopsy. >> there weren't signs of a struggle. >> the autopsy results are the first clues of what may have actually happened on august 9th. >> the question asked to us was, could that wound occur from him walking away and then he turns around. it's consistent with that. while the shot could have come from the back, but also could have occurred when he was putting his hands up. so i put my hands up and you see where that wound is at. it could have happened if he put his arms across in a defensive
manner. we don't know the. >> some question whether the autopsy refutes eyewitness accounts that michael brown was shot as he was running away from officer darren wilson. one witness who saw most of the incident offered this. >> he was running away so when he turned towards the cop is when he led off the most shots. >> cnn reached out to the ferguson police about the account but the have receive nod comment thus far. now a source close to officer wilson tells a local radio station his version of what took place. here's part of that account. >> he goes in reverse, tries to get out of his car. he slams his door shut violently and then he opened his car again, tries to get out. as he stands up, michael bum rushes him. darren grabs for his gun. michael grabs the gun. at one point he's got the gun totally turned against his hip and darren shoves it away and the gun goes off.
>> a source with detailed knowledge of the investigation says the caller's portrayal of the officer's account is the accurate. meantime, the unrest continues. >> disperse the area immediately. >> on the governor's orders the national guard troops have been called up. officials are struggling with a city on edge. >> police were shot at. makeshift barricades were set up to block police. bottles and rockets were thrown at police. based on these conditions, i had no alternative but to elevate the level of our response. >> several people were hurt in the clashes. >> we were walking peacefully down to the mall and a young lady was hit in her face with smoke bombs be an tear gas. this is unacceptable and this is not the law. this is unacceptable! until we get justice, we will not stop!
>> and brianna, things got so bad out here last night at one point, police tell me that the command post which is just up the road from where i'm standing almost got overrun. thankfully that did not happen. but once again, those appeals for calm that you talked about clearly still not being heard out here. >> jason, describe the scene behind you. we see folks with signs. we're hearing honking there. >> yeah. that's what we've been seeing is every day, that honking you hear, those are people driving by honking in support of the protests are that have been about gatherings out here. just a few moments ago, a community leader was trying to organize people that gathered on the street trying to get them to a community organizing event expected to happen within the next 30 minutes or so. but this is what we've seen consistently out here during the day and into the early evening. people like you see out here coming peacefully protesting, carrying their signs, voicing
political opinions where you always get the turn is at night. once the sun goes down, that's when things seem to turn ugly. >> that's right. those people behind you want to be heard and certainly are being heard. jason an, thank everything you so much. with the national guard deploying amid warnings more violence will not be tolerated, let's find out about the mood in in ferguson from cnn's don lemon. what's the mood like? are we expecting to see perhaps a repeat of last night? >> i would hope that we're not expecting to see that, but certainly authorities here are bracing for that. as i have been describing this earlier, it's a tinder box. where at any moment, something can ignite and something can erupt. any little thing can set people off. as you can hear, you can hear in jamp's live shot and my shot, people are driving by and honking and they've been doing that all day. as the day moves on, you can hear it more and more. there are people standing around me with signs, no justice, no
peace. we were down at the qt i guess about a quarter mile down the road a little bit earlier. that's where really everyone had been gathering here. that was the site where protests are had been gathering. then officers came in earlier as we were on the air saying nonessential media, if you weren't in the middle i've live show, everyone had to get out and you could not congregate in one area. you couldn't stop and stand still and congregate in an area. we have been standing here witnessing people get arrested for people sort of standing and as they say exercising their right to protest. and getting arrested. we saw at least three arrests here at this particular location and one of the last locations where we were. but as i said, it is a tinder box. earlier last week when we were here, things had calmed down towards the end of the week. i went away for a couple of hours on saturday morning and came back yesterday. and everything had ignited.
quite frankly, hell broke loose. i got to witness and be part of having guns drawn on us as we got to certain locations where we would have to put our hands up and identify ourselves as media. quite frankly, there were shots in the area and officers were very concerned and they were in fear for their safety. it has been really a precarious situation here since i have been back and really since saturday night when more violence erupted here, brianna. >> we're watching just how the community is responding and how disruptive this is. the first day of school in that area put off yet again today. tell us, as well about this rally that was scheduled for tonight. but it appears it's been called off? >> well, yeah. there are a number of rallies scheduled for this evening, scheduled for today. there was one scheduled for this morningen an nothing really came of it. there was one that was scheduled for tonight it has been called off.
members of a certain group, the black lawyers for justice association, which was formally the new black panthers are calling for a five-day moratorium on evening protests as the sundown. they're saying at sundown, everyone should not be any protesting, there should not be any violence or any rioting at all. they're saying there needs to be a break. there needs to be a point here where there is a reset to try to get the handle on some of the violence. what they're saying is the people causing that violence whether they feel they're provoked by police, whatever the mitigating factor is for that, they think that those people are overshadowing the real issue here and that is the disconnect between police officers and the community and also the death of michael brown and they believe that they are doing a disservice by causing violence and looting and rioting to the family of michael brown, to the man who was put in charge of the people here, the missouri highway patrol so they believe that you
know, that's a disservice to them. and also, there's some concern here too about the autopsy being released today. the findings of how many shots at least six times. they believe that police went overboard and there was too much force with that, as well. every little factor plays into whether or not there's going to be any violence. >> don, stand by for us as we are watching to see certainly how things progress there in ferguson this evening. meantime, what don's talking reverberating back here to washington. president obama has just spoken out about the tensions and violence in ferguson. let's turn to white house correspondent michele kaczynski. tell us what he said, michele. >> i think very careful is a good way to describe this statement. the president didn't want to pass judgment as he put it too early. he didn't want to make a statement on the facts of the case at this point. et equally condemned violence against protesters by the police as he did violence toward the
police. he did address racial tensions in a general sense. acknowledging that there are communities and groups of young people who feel like they're not a part of things but he also acknowledged there are young black men who commit crimes and this they should be prosecuted saying one thing we could do in this country is to look at whether there home run disparities in treatment within the justice system. here's some of what he said. >> we have all seen images of protesters and law enforcement in the streets. it's clear the that vast majority of people are peacefully protesting. what's also clear is that a small minority of individuals are not. while i understand the passions and the anger that arise over the death of michael brown, giving in to that anger by looting or carrying guns and even attacking the police only serves to raise tensions and stir chaos. it undermines rather than
advancing justice. >> so what the president's going to do now is send the attorney general to ferguson, missouri, on wednesday. he's going to meet with other members of the department of justice team who have opened now a federal investigation into the case whether civil rights might have been violated. he's also going to work with local leaders to try to tame tensions there. one thing that's been really important to both the president and the attorney general in the statements they've made so far is making sure that the police response doesn't inflame tensions. so what about the governor deciding to send in the national guard? it was also reported that the white house didn't even note about that even though the white house had been working closely with the governor. the white house wouldn't respond today as to whether they knew about their involvement or not but the president said in a statement just now he did speak to the governor today and the president banted to make sure if the national guard was used, it was in a very limited way.
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outrage? let's get reaction to the latest developments now. john gaskin is an naacp board member and cedric alexander is president of the national organization of black law enforcement executives. i want to get the reaction from both of you first to what we just heard from president obama. we heard him address ferguson. he was talking about not wanting to prejudge. he doesn't want to put his hands on the scale but certainly he was acknowledging the relate of what's going on there on the grounds. first to you, john. what did you take from what he said? >> well, from what i got out of it is that it's obviously a top issue of concern to the president. the fact that he took time out of his schedule to address the matter and that he has meetings scheduled with the attorney general holder shows that it's a major priority. fact that the attorney general will be here visiting with local leaders and visiting with law enforcement that's here on the
ground from the fbi and from the justice department. obviously shows that this is a priority. but from our standpoint, we want to make sure that it remains a top priority. we are glad that the president has spoke out regarding this issue and is bringing more national attention to it. and is certainly making sure that he weighs in on it and making sure that he can do everything within his power that a fair unbiased investigation takes place. i think that's quite important. especially with the unrest that's here on the ground in the statement tap the that he further made regarding the national guard being used in a limited way. i think that's -- i think that speaks volumes. >> yeah, and certainly he's going to be keeping an eye on that, certainly. cedric, what did you think in does it help when the president speaks out? or is he powerless in this situation? >> no, he's very powerful in this situation. he's the president of the united states. what we have to note here is
this is a national issue. the issue that has taken place today right there in ferguson is being viewed around the world some he think it's important for us to remember that the president made a statement. he was very clear about the position that we should wait and not make judgment but a totality of an investigation is going to be paramount to the outcome of this case. and i think the very responsible position that he's took as president of the united states is very well respected by myself and everyone. >> and part of that investigation because there are not as we can tell cameras at this point capturing the killing of michael brown. part of the investigation is sorting out the differing views of what happened. we're starting to hear, john, from darren wilson in a way, sort of his side of the story. that's the police officer who shot and killed michael brown. we have a source corroborating
what this woman who is a friend of wilson's who calls herself simply josie. she called into a radio station and here's what she said. >> as he stands up, michael just bum rushes him, shoves him back into his car, punches him in the face and then of course, darren grabs for his gun and michael grabs the gun. at one point he's got the gun totally turned against his hip and darren shoves it away and the gun goes off. >> if that's true, john, does it make a difference in this case? >> well, here's what we want to look at. you know, it's still early and a lot of information is being forthcoming. the autopsy that's come out today, they've mentioned that there's more information to come out. there's still information that is forthcoming. one thing about her, she didn't necessarily reveal exactly who she was. i think that says a lot going forward. you know, who this particular individual is.
once we know somewhat who this person is, that may add some credibility or take away some credibility about what it is that she has to say, especially i believe you said she called in kind of somewhat anonymously. you know, we really kind of need to find out who this particular person is before we take what she has to say really seriously sue cedric, we're getting this side it appears from some sort of compatriot of the officers. we heard from a friend of michael brown's that he had been shot in the back. we're learning from the autopsy today released by really michael brown's family that he was shot at the front of his body. between this account that you're hearing and the autopsy results, what kind of difference does this make, do you think? >> well, you know, i think there are some very glaring evidence that is coming in but we have to remember this. we have to look at this case in its totality. a lot of the evidence that's
being presented on the news every night is coming in spottedly. all of that evidence is going to have to be brought together. witness statement, forensics evidence at the scene, officers statement and everything is going to have to be considered into the calculation so that we will have a very clear view of what occurred. we all want justice done here because clearly there were a lot of missteps that took place very early on in this investigation. that creates a great deal of pause. but we can't prejudge and have to wait till all the information is in. >> no matter the truth, it reveals so much distrust of police in this community and other ones, as well. john and cedric, thank you to both of. >> you thank you. >> coming up a look at the police officer who pulled the trigger and his account of the fatal shooting after michael brown and how local police view the shooting of michael brown and the outrage in the community. you're in "the situation room."
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tonight, we're hearing for the first time his own account of the shooting along with that of a crucial eyewitness this is the first video we're seeing of officer darren wilson in the moments after the shooting. pia jay crenshaw is the eyewitness who shot the video. >> he's looking over the body looking baffled and trying to explain to the officer what had i just done. then we get this picture of him pacing back and forth like in disbelief. >> and the first account of officer wilson's version of events. a source with detailed knowledge of the investigation cnn the account of a caller to rideio station kftk is accurate and matches what wilson told investigators. he the caller said brown punched wilson in the face. and that brown tried to grab the officer's gun. that they struggled. wilson's gun went off. brown turned and ran and when
officer wilson yelled at brown to freeze, brown turned and started taunting the officer >> he said all of a sudden, he just started to bum rush him and coming at him full speed. and so he just started shooting and he just kept coming. >> friends of boun's say he did not fight for the gun and was shot as he put his hands up. these accounts surface as we get new details on officer wilson. a prend of wilson's says wilson went through a divorce last year and has a child. sources confirm this is a photo of wilson first published by yahoo!.com from his father's facebook page referencing a commendation wilson got in february. >> he was a gentleman. he's a quiet officer. and he was -- he is, he has been an excellent officer for the police department. >> the 28-year-old has spent four years with the ferguson police and hayes clean record according to officials. jake shepherd, a long-time friend was asked if wilson had any racist tendencies. >> he never talked about
minorities. he was of the moral virtue where he would never bring something like that up. >> a friend of wilson's told me he never made racist comments in public or privately with friends. the frind who has spoken to officer wilson since the shooting told me wilson is "struggling right now." the friend said wilson is in a safe place. i st. louis county police official tells me wilson has been cooperating with the investigation and interviewed twice. >> what's his status right now with the ferguson police department. >> the chief of the department thaupz jackson told me he's on administrative leave with play. if he's exonerated both criminally and intermly, he will return to active service with the police. i asked the chief about whether he's got any protection or secure location for him, he would not comment on any of that. he's not going there. >> you would imagine he would though. brian todd, a very good question. maybe we'll find out in the days to come. we've now seen the results of
one autopsy and heard officer darren wilson's side of the story. let's get reaction from gabe crocker, the president of the st. louis county police association. gabe, thanks for being with us. i know that you haven't spoken directly with officer wilson but you've been in touch with certainly some people who are in touch with officer wilson. how is he doing? >> well, you know, i think he's going through a very rough time right now. there's an incredible amount of pressure on him. and his family. it can't obviously can't be easy for this officer to be going through this. and he's under a tremendous amount of pressure right now. >> we're hearing the story coming out from one of his friends on a local radio station. we've heard sources familiar with officer wilson's accounting of the events of that day and they tell us that this is very much in line with what he thinks. when are we going to get his side of the story officially from him, do you think? >> i'm having a bit of a hard
time hearing with you with the noisen at traffic. >> when will we get his side. >> your question one more time. >> when will we get his side of the story here? >> well, i think you're going to get that side of the story when the investigation is presented to the prosecutors no matter which way, shape or form that ends up taking on. and you know, our county prosecutor, bob mccullough, is waiting to hear from the police and they will forward that investigation on. but i can tell you what everybody wants. it's what the police want and the folks behind me want which is a fair, open, honest investigation. i can assure you that. >> that regard, police are not being being very forthcoming about the circumstances of the events. we're hearing from a woman who causes herself josie, a friend of officer wilson's. can you see how some people feel that the facts really aren't out there and that the police are not being forth coming? >> absolutely. and i can tell that you there
are police commanders, captain johnson who's handling the tactical situation at the command post, all of these people are just as concerned about this lack of release of information. but a lot of that is happening for a particular reason because the folks that are asking for that fair, open, honest investigation, have to understand that it does take a little bit of time. obviously, we're all aware of the national pressure that's on our local officers, our departments. the investigators that are handling this investigation. and so it's a tremendous amount of pressure on them. and it's not something that we should rush through. i don't think there's any conspiracy at this time to try to delay that stuff from coming out. >> yeah. and i'm wondering, do you know if officer wilson knew michael brown? >> i don't have any information about that kind -- i don't have any information along those lines. >> but your background, i would wonder, your background in law enforcement and obviously working with so many officers in law enforcement, this is a small
police force. pretty small, 53 officers. would you be surprised if he or his colleagues weren't aware of people in their community, michael brown, for instance? >> you know, again, i mean i can't speculate whether or not these officers knew him or knew of him. you know, i don't know the particular backgrounds. but what i know it's not uncommon for officers to come into contact with people in the community. but i certainly wouldn't be able to say with any degree of certainty whether officers encounters mr. brown previously. >> gabe crocker, thank you for being with us. really appreciate it from the st. louis county police association. just ahead, there are new allegations that the ferguson police have a history of violence. i will talk live with the lawyer of this man. he says that he was detained and beaten by the ferguson police. from 2000 to 2011, on average 17 manufacturers a day shut down in america.
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attorney james shoddal. soly imagine when you heard what happened in ferguson, james, you must have the felt certainly just i guess just tell us what you thought. i don't want to put words in your mouth. >> well, when i had heard what happened in ferguson, i basically told a couple of my colleagues and a couple of people that asked me if i've heard about it, and i said it really doesn't surprise me. in prosecuting mr. davis's case, you always look closely at the department, you know, in the city of ferguson to see if there's a problem there and that they are, you know, responsible or the moving force behind you know, the incident of the constitutional violation and i uncovered some very bad things that were going on within the department with respect to use of force reporting and retention of those reports and officers' personnel files and it was
rather shocking on what they were doing within the department. >> and also that it was lax, i think certainly before new chief came in about reporting of use of force. you know, your client, his case is centered around the fact that this was a case of mistaken identity. he was mistaken for another henry davis with a different middle name and different social security number, obviously not him. certainly when he was in jail, he certainly sustained some of those wounds that we see in the pictures. he alleges that he was assaulted, kicked in the head, that there were a number of officers involved. i think four. are those officers still working for the ferguson police department? >> all except for one of them. there was a female officer involved and she is now working for a neighboring local small law enforcement agency. but all of the other officers are still working. officer beard i've seen him behind chief jackson and some of
the -- in many soft press conferences that chief jackson has done. >> when you look at your client's case, do you think this is a sort of symptom of a certain type of culture in this police department that you may be seeing play out in the case in the killing of michael brown? >> obviously, i do not have the facts and i'm not going to make a judgment on what you know what happened in the michael brown case but i can testify to what i uncovered in mr. davis's case. the reporting you know, letting an officer complete their own use of force report and then not have that use of force report go into the officer's own personnel file just creates an atmosphere of you know, go out on the street, guys, use force offer often you want. do whatever you want. and there will be no
repercussions. and another important factor that i had found out in deposing the chief is that they could not tell me how many complaints or citizen complaints a particular officer had. >> do you think, james, maybe if it doesn't speak to this case, do you think and we have some of the video of what we've seen going on last night and also in the previous days, do you think the case of your client maybe, it sort of i guess used to this reaction you're seeing from people in the community where they certainly feel that they're not being treated fairly, they're not being protected? >> i think so. i think the -- i think there was an environment that's been there for a long time. the former chief was there maybe 11 years when these, you know, poor you know, recording policies were in place and you know, i think that creates an environment and plus, there has
been other, you know, i've heard from other attorneys stating that there are a lot of other issues between the citizens of ferguson and the ferguson police department. now, the new chief chief jackson came in in 2010 and says he's made changes. well, i would really hope that the fbi and when this he do their investigation into michael brown's case to really look into see if those changes that he stated in his deposition testimony to make sure those changes were actually effected and executed because you can say you're going to make all the changes that you want but you really have to execute those and when it's been such a -- such an environment, it's really a difficult thing to change a bad environment inside a department like that. >> james schottle, thanks so much for your time. we are getting details from the private autopsy that michael brown's family ordered. what does it tell us? i'll talk live with the family's
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back in control for now of iraq's largest dam. the administration says the air attacks are not mission creep beyond the original goal of protecting u.s. interests. >> the mosul dam fell under terrorist control earlier this month and is directly tied to our objective of protecting americans in iraq. if that dam was breached it could have proven catastrophic. >> reporter: mosul dam was closely watched by u.s. reconnaissance flights for weeks. intelligence revealed isis was not doing critical maintenance on the dam and there were indications they might also blow it up. engineers calculate a breach would unleash a wave of water tens of feet tall that would rage through mosul and flood iraq all the way to baghdad. a humanitarian disaster and a threat to u.s. personnel. a flashy new isis video full of violence and displays of
weapons. no one knows how far isis may go next. some experts say the u.s. must face reality in iraq. the mission is growing. >> air strikes alone will not be sufficient to do the job. at its core the mission is to get rid of isis. the united states cannot have a middle east in which isis exists as an entity that controls large areas of territory. >> reporter: the ranking democrat on the house foreign affairs committee also urging more white house action on fox news sunday. >> ultimately we may have some boots on the ground there. not something i want but you know what? we have bad choices and the worst choice is to do nothing. >> reporter: pentagon officials say they remain ready to strike additional isis targets including dams and other facilities. >> barbara starr, thank you. rick perry is slamming his indictment as a politically
motivated farce. last year perry threatened to pull funding from a democratic woman unless she resign. she refused. >> coming up at the top of the hour we have a live interview with the lawyer from michael brown's family. big day? ah, the usual. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what's up for the next shift? ah, nothing much. just keeping the lights on. (laugh) nice. doing the big things that move an economy.
. happening now a situation room special report breaking news. city on edge, the national guard is called in after protests grow into violence. no curfew tonight. is that an invitation for more trouble. shot six times an autopsy ordered by his family reveals michael brown's body was riddled with bullet wounds and how the officer involved describes the shooting. plus obama speaks out. the president addresses the violence in ferguson as the federal government gaits the shooting. wolf blitzer is off. you're in "the situation room". our breaking news there are fresh appeals for calm in ferguson, missouri after peaceful protests collapse into chaos with gun shots, fire bombs and clouds of tear gas. an independent autopsy order by
michael brown's family shown the teen was shot six times in the front much his body, and right now i'm going to be joined by jake tapper, our co-anchor for this hour. he's joining us from ferguson, missouri. jake, you have been talking to folks there. there is some new information you can share with us. >> reporter: that's right. people still upset very much about the way that this has all unfolded, both in terms of obviously the shooting of michael brown, but also the way in which the police have respond, the way in which local police have revealed drips and drabs of information. the governor of missouri expressed concern how some of this information has been revealed. governor also tells me members of the state national guard will come here and they will have a limited role he says in trying to keep the peace here in
ferguson tonight. there's still a lot of anger on the streets more than a week after this unarmed teenager was shot and killed by a police officer. local prosecutor saying that a grand jury could start hearing evidence in this investigation as early as wednesday, just two days and a short while ago president obama, of course, confirming that federal civil rights investigators are coming, are here and an investigation is under way as he appealed once again for calm. the missouri national guard is being deployed to prevent another night of this. more violent clashes between police and protesters erupting in ferguson within the last 24 hours. tensions apparently reigniting as the world gets a new look at the killing of mike brown, the killing that sparked the unrest.
>> he shot this boy outside of my apartment. >> reporter: exclusive video taken by a woman who said she saw mike brown being shot and killed by officers. that's wilson on the right. brown's relatives are renewing calls for wilson to be arrested based on an independent autopsy they requested. the preliminary results showed brown was shot six times to the front of his body, four bullets went into his right arm, two went into his head. >> why would he be shot in the very top of his head? 6'4" man. makes no sense. >> reporter: the pathologist said brown was not shot at close range. >> there weren't signs of a struggle. >> reporter: that conflicts with accounts by police. they say brown struggled with wilson and reached for his gun.
>> at one point he got the gun turned at his hip. shoved it away. >> reporter: a source with detailed knowledge of the investigation says this caller's portrayal of the officer's account is accurate. this is what the officer claims happened. protesters still have many questions about brown's death and concerns about law enforcement tactics in ferguson. peaceful demonstrations spiraled out of control overnight. officers fired tear gas into a crowd of hundreds of protesters including some children who were marching towards police as a midnight curfew was about to take effect. >> when we saw violent acts including shooting, and throwing of molotov cocktails and the destruction of businesses, we had to act to protect lives and property. >> reporter: but protesters are challenging the claim that they
provoked police. >> we were walking peacefully down to the mall and a young lady was hit in her face with tear gas. we were peaceful. this is unacceptable and this is not the law. >> reporter: and there's still a lot of tension here justin last few hours, a number of protesters have been arrested just yards from where i'm standing not for being violent but for standing in place instead of moving. police being very disciplined when it comes to you can march but you cannot just stand in one place. back to you. >> jake, stand by. we'll be coming back to you throughout the hour. president obama says attorney general eric holder will travel toph to ferguson on wednesday. let's bring in our white house correspondent michelle kosinski with the latest on what the president said a short time ago. >> reporter: careful, careful,
careful is a good way to describe it. he didn't want to take sides or prejudge things. plenty of people in the community wanted him to address the obvious racial tensions surrounding this. today he did address it but in a very carefully balanced way. >> in too many communities, too many young men of color are left behind and seen only as objects of fear. there are young black men that commit crime. and we can argue about why that happened because of the poverty they were born into, the lack of opportunity or the school systems that failed them or what have you, but if they commit a crime then they need to be prosecuted. >> reporter: the president also clearly wanted to carefully balance condemnation of excessive use of force by police towards peaceful profrtesters wh condemnation of the police.
the president doesn't have plans to visit ferguson, missouri but he's sending the attorney general down there on wednesday to meet with a department of justice team that's investigating the civil rights questions surrounding this case. >> it sounded today, michele, like he wants governor nixon to be sure he loops the president into things. i want to head back to ferguson, missouri. i under you have an important guest, jake? >> reporter: that's right. joining me now is one of the lawyers for michael brown's family. i know you have been out and about. you haven't heard all the comments made by different people including president obama today because you've been working. but i guess more generally what have you heard from the justice department. they have launched an investigation into whether civil rights were violated. what else have they told you? >> well, the family and a lot of people in the community have a great distrust in the local law
enforcement agencies, so we have asked on several occasions that we want the justice department to take over the entire investigation. do an nt autopsy, do an independent investigation, to an independent examination of witnesses because witnesses are not coming forward to the local law enforcement agencies because after all you leave they got to live here and they feel intimidated. >> reporter: what did you gather? what was the most important thing you think came out of this independent autopsy that the family requested. what was most significant for you? >> jake, understand that the family needed to do their own independent autopsy because we did not get veriseververifiatioe justice department they were doing their own independent autopsy. >> you want ad second one. the justice department didn't
say they would do one. >> exactly. we've been in this situation before where you can't count on the police department autopsy that executed that child to be one that you're going to rely on for evidence, so they had to have their own independent autopsy. >> what came out of that press conference and that autopsy that you think is significant? >> it's very significant, no doubt about it. it verifies what those witnesses said out there that he had multiple gun shots. >> six wounds. >> at six. probably more than that but at least six. so substantiated what a lot of those witnesses were saying about when he put his hands up, they had the marks there that can show he had shots that could only take place if he had his hands up and so forth. so we need the witness accounts, we need the clothes. we need to find out if there was any gunshot residue in the automobile. there's a lot of thing he didn't
have because he hasn't gotten it from the medical examiner's office yet. >> are you concerned about tonight? we've had three straight nights of individuals protesting, tear gas fired, some stores looted. i know a lot of people in this community saying that the looters and the rioters are not from ferguson, they are outside, they are people coming from outside and in fact the governor said something similar on saturday night only two of the people were from missouri. are you worried about what will happen tonight >> jake, mr. brown's family as well as everybody that represents michael brown has asked people to be responsible. we don't need them just to be angry. we're trying to get justice. when they are irresponsible that takes people away from the focus of justice for an unarmed teenager being shot and executed in broad daylight. that is what's so troubling. if people are emotional about it, some people will never
understand where these parents have to go through every day just praying their child will come home and the fact that they could be executed in broad daylight is troubling to many people in america. some people would never have to worry about that scenario but some parents have to worry about it every day. >> what's your response, what's the family's response to the fact that officer wilson, his version of events is that michael brown was bum rushing him. >> where did you get that from? did you get it from a police report. >> we did. >> from some radio caller that nobody knows. you all have had eyewitnesses come forward. so we got to be transparent. we can't let people spin stuff. we got to make them give the police report the same thing we're asking for from day one. they are trying to assault his character. to say don't pay attention to the real focus pay attention to this.
>> the police report should come forward. we've run numerous witness accounts at least three but there's this woman who is friends with wilson. i understand you take issue with it. we vetted it and it is according to a source -- >> here's what i'll say. >> can i play this out. according to somebody -- >> jake, you want us to hear some hearsay from somebody. >> it's what wilson is telling people. that's the point. >> make them give the police report. that's not fair to michael brown. >> no. a source with detailed knowledge of the investigation tells cnn this is what wilson is telling people. take a listen. >> michael bum rushes him and sheriff's office him back into his car, punches him in his face and then, of course, darren grax for his gun, michael grabs the gun. at one point he has got totally turned against his hip and darren, you know, sheriff's office it away and the gun goes
off. >> i understand. this is not a substitute for mr. wilson coming forward himself. not a substitute for a police report. but this is a source with detailed knowledge of the investigation what wilson's versions of events is. what is your response. >> we have a lot of resources. they have come forward. >> we put them on air, absolutely. >> they have given their reports public. we want those reports to be given publicly. i'll say this very clearly, due process of the law means that the police officer is given the right to innocent until proven guilty if he's arrested. and that's the big question. if he's ever, ever going to be arrested because we know the scenario first mr. brown would have been arrested day one and we would have just hoped he could have gotten his constitutional rights. we want everybody to get due process. we want it to be a fair system for everybody. for the police officer wilson but also for michael brown's family because he's not here to
tell you his side of it. >> no, indeed he's not. we can't lose sight of that. this is at the end of the day forgetting the protests, the politic, the eyewitness accounts and hearsay accounts this is about a young man losing his life. how is the family doing >> well, obviously they are emotional. his mother for the first time found out how her son died and, you know, she had the question did he suffer much. and he was able to tell her where the head shot which they believe was the last shot that would have killed him instantaneously. some suffered through the first five shots. and i don't know if that's competent or not, jake, but he
wanted to tell her that he, you know, he suffered. he tried to lessen the blow that he didn't suffer much. >> thank you so much. a horrible tragedy. thank you for your time. back to you. >> thank you so much. we've been learning more about that officer who shot and killed michael brown and his version of what happened in the moments before he opened fire. we heard jake cover some of that. cnn don lemon is joining us live from ferguson. what's the mood there like, don? >> reporter: i think we're about to be arrested because we're standing on the sidewalk. >> move out of the way, sir. >> reporter: we've been standing here all day. >> come on, let's go. >> reporter: that's what's happening here. people are here. and they are standing -- you can see what's happening. we've been standing here all day. they told us to come here. i can't move. i'm not resisting a police officer. i'm being pushed back.
you can see. >> move. >> reporter: now you see why people are so upset here because we have been here all day. they moved us here and told us this is our location and doing the same thing for the people. we're on national television. imagine what they are doing to people when you don't see on national television the people that don't have a voice like we do. so that's what these officers are up to here. people here are feeling like they are occupied on their streets. they are intimidated by police officers. you have been standing somewhere all day, exercising your right to protest, all of a sudden somebody shows up don't like you standing on the street, the rules change and they move you. you see the people saying hands up don't shoot. i'm sure you'll see some people start to be taken in and get arrested. okay. >> don, question. are these ferguson police or are these from a different
jurisdiction? >> reporter: these are police from st. louis, police officers from st. louis county. most of them are just telling people that they need to move. there's this one officer you saw with me who physically pushing people, the one here to the left with the gray hair, this officer right here physically pushing people out of the way. one of the older officers here. so, you know -- >> is he saying, don -- don why is he saying that he wants people to get out of the way? there have been some regulations we heard jake saying people are not allowed to stand, they are allowed to move. is that part of the issue? do you feel like you're just being caught up in that because obviously you have to standstill to do a live shot. >> reporter: yeah. it is. in order to do a live shot we need to standstill. why are we being pushed back, officer.
>> talk to my commander. >> reporter: they are telling us we have to talk to one of the commanders. at this moment i do not see one. what you're seeing now on the bull horn that's the gentleman who is part of black american justice attorneys for american justice which was the -- used to be the new black panthers. he's asking people to not demonstrate and not protest after sundown. so this officer is telling us -- what did the officer say? why are people being moved, officer? why are people being moved, officer? >> what's that? >> why are people being asked to move. >> traffic concern. we're trying to get people moved over there where they can protest. we don't want anybody to get hit. that parking lot we want everybody to. >> everybody has been standing here all day and all of a
sudden -- >> reporter: so according to the officer he says one of the officers here, one of the missouri state troopers i can't find my camera, there it is, they are saying that they don't want people to get hurt by traffic or hit by a car and this is for safety reasons. so they are moving people to a parking lot down the street here, an empty parking lot. they are allowing them to walk in the middle of the street to get to that parking lot. >> don, i know there was supposed to be a rally this evening that was cancelled. is this happening impromptu or is this something that's been going on all day where you are? >> reporter: this is -- i mean this many people -- everything is impromptu today. i think it's important to note that there are people out here on bull horns and they are telling people obey the law, don't resist, do what the police officers say, asking them to move down the street. and here's the interesting
thing. is that there were no people in the street. traffic was not being backed up until the officers came here, am i right? until the officers came here everybody was standing on the side of the road where we were and the reason they were standing there some of them because they wanted to voice their concerns. yes. thank you. they are asking to us move on the sidewalk. they were standing on street, no traffic, nothing out of the ordinary for 5:25, 5:20 here, rush hour traffic. so i think from my perspective here, the police actually created the traffic situation and the situation that's going on, the chaos here rather than the people who are just standing here, standing next to us as some of your producers there in washington heard the conversation before you came to me. people were standing there talking to me and i said we're going to be live on television, make sure you guys don't say any bad words. i said if the cops come over here and arrest me i'm tired and
cranky don't get me in trouble. they said we'll get you out. just before that officer came around the corner and said move back and it was one officer who was the most aggressive, everyone else was saying moving back. the other officer as you saw started pushing us and so -- in this particular situation the officers actually incited the situation and not the protesters and that is the problem here. >> so, describe from the very get go folks were there on the sidewalk, on the sidewalk or on if edge of the road, and they have been there for some time. how long have you been there with people gathered there and then talk about when the police -- >> reporter: we can show you. let me show you. so ian cored wolf's show at 1:00 p.m. eastern and then i did a live shot for the top of brooke's show and said everybody had to leave. we got stay because we were in the middle of a live show.
>> who is they, the police? >> police officers, yeah, county police said that and highway patrol. so here's where we were standing. they sent us all here. that's the mcdonald's where some of the journalists were arrested. you see the side of the tloroad there. we were standing here which is on the sidewalk which is a public sidewalk and as you can see here to the right that's where jake did his interview with ben crump. we're all standing here. jake tapper is here. i saw anderson cooper walk up. he was doing some interviews talking to people. people stopped us and asked us to take pictures. very orderly. they are excited to see us and excited to be here. people don't see cameras all the time. they don't see the people they see on television all the time. they want to walk up to us, touch us, take pictures with us and meet us and know our stories. so we learn their stories. that's how we learn about them. we're standing out here.
we're doing what the police officers told us to do as members of the media stand here and do your interviews and people are standing around us and then all of a sudden that happens. perfect example. glad it happened on camera so everybody could see it. >> so you were there following the guidelines that they set up for you don and you were being pushed out of your way. >> absolutely. i had done no more, no less, how many live shots have we done? ten. every hour, two hours not just for cc, domestic for wolf, for brooke, for hln, for cnn international. we've been doing live shots all day in this same location and then there you have it. so we were doing what we've been doing this all day doing nothing out of the order, nothing differently than they told us, they sent us here and now they are trying to strong arm us out of the way. >> don, we'll be coming back to you.
>> reporter: there are police officers in the middle of street. they are getting their orders. they blocked traffic off on the street. if you look roma downey the street is qt and the street where michael brown died. completely empty. no traffic to be blocked because they all blocked it off. >> don, we're going to be right back with you. stand by. we'll have more of this breaking news in ferguson. ♪
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white fracas with protesters own police. let's go back to don. he's a few feet away from me. don, what happened? >> reporter: what a difference a few feet makes. we were standing here jake as we have been standing here all day. you were interviewing benjamin crump. officers come around the corner and i'm talking to producer and say we have some sort of fracas going on. by the time you got to us police officers were pushing us out of the way, out of the place they told us to stand. i didn't hold my ground. i just stood there. i moved back as the officer and i questioned him and i said why are you moving us. you told to us stay here. it's all on tape. i want you to see what's happening. there's a police officer in the middle of the street and you see red cam and one on his belt. that's pepper spray they have been spring on people.
officers -- this one has zip ties, restraints, plastic restraints. they didn't spray us. spray the pepper spray. those restraints and moving people to a parking lot. this is what people have been saying all along and we've been trying to convey, people are peacefully protesting for a lot of the times and then the officers actually will come in and create the havoc because they are moving people back and people haven't become violent and they get upset and they become violent, some of the times because they feel they are exercising their right to protest and being pushed back, being occupied, being disrespected, being intimidated. so it's really interesting to see it happen, we have watched it happen to other people but that is the first time we have been right in the middle of it and live on television. so i'm actually glad it happened so people can see that at home so they can see many people are
in disbelief about this, about the disconnect in the community, about the tactics what some people call overmilitarization by the police officers, the excessive force. i'm glad people got to see it. we know these officers have a very tough job and there are instances where they are provoked, but there are legitimate instances where the people feel they are provoked as well, the protesters are provoked and somehow that sparks the violence. what they are doing is moving people over here to an empty parking lot next to this credit union and when we questioned them live on television why are you guys moving us they said it's because a safety reason traffic concerns. jake, so you can see this entire street here, a mile or two, pretty much empty. they have gotten all the cars off the street and there you go. this is sundown will happen very soon. we'll be here and see what happens.
back to you. >> opposite course as we recall the national guard here in the state of missouri will be here on the streets of ferguson this evening running a command center and there's no curfew. we'll take a quick break. when we come back we'll be back live to the streets of ferguson, missouri. stay with us.
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. you are in "the situation room". we're following breaking news coming to us out of ferguson, missouri which is where we find don lemon. don, some developments justin last couple of minutes. tell us what you've been watching there on the ground. >> reporter: just getting some information. they are starting to ask media -- they are asking some of the media to move to the other side of ferguson to move further away. we see some officer checking some of the credentials. we just saw someone who is, believed to be from a photo agency get arrested. he was in the back of a police van that just went down the treat. we're trying to run it down and figure out exactly what happened. back to you. >> don lemon there for us in ferguson. i want to bring in now tom fuentes. you're watching what's happening. don has been told he can be some place to do a live shot.
obviously there are legitimate concerns that law enforcement have. they don't want people loitering they said, they want them moving. they can march but they don't want them standing there. as you watch this and you watch what's going on, don witnessing an arrest, what do you think about how law enforcement is handling this and how people in the street have been responding. >> i've been in disbelief over a week. i've not seen such a disjointed law enforcement effort in a major situation and this goes back to ferguson pd, st. louis county police, the state police come in. now tonight you'll bring in the national guard which is only going to add more confusion and more difficulty in coordinating the law enforcement effort. from watching what just happened with don lemon, why were they doing that? was that necessary while he's on live television? who gave that order? what's the plan? what's going on? none of these things are being explained adequately to the people or to the media or to
anybody else. i think it's a ball of confusion and it has been from the beginning and it's not getting any better. >> i want to bring in now cnn senior legal analyst jeffrey tubin. you've been watching this. one of the big questions what are the rights of the people there on the ground, and certainly we know this isn't a very good, i guess you could say pr effort on the part of law enforcement to say the least. but what do you think they are really doing, what are the legal rights here of folks assembling? >> the government, the police can always make what are called restrictions on time, place and manner of people exercising their first amendment rights. you don't have a right with a mega phone at 3:00 in the morning in a residential neighborhood to exercise your first amendment rights. but in the real world the police understand that journalists have to be able to do their job and
if they are not disrupting, it's much better to let them do that. and, you know, here, of course, where you had this terrible example of the two reporters arrested in the mcdonald's a couple of days ago, you would think that arresting reporters is probably something that this police department would want to avoid. the key is have clear rules that everybody can abide by, that everybody understands. don't shift them around. don't say this side of the street is okay and then change your mind. what seems to be going on here is you not only have different authorities but you have different rules about what's okay and that's just a recipe for more chaos. >> we're seeing it play out right here live on air. i want to bring in a forensic pathologist and attorney. we're learning certainly some important information about this autopsy that was done at the request of michael brown's
family. we've learned that he was shot six times and from the front. we heard from one of michael brown's friends that was there with him that he had been shot in the back. we have heard from a woman who is saying that she basically represents officer darren wilson's point of view that michael brown was coming at the officer. when you were looking at the autopsy results as you see them today, can we learn anything in terms of which story might be corroborated here? >> the problem with the four gunshot wounds to the right arm is that an arm can be held in any number and variety of positions. you can just imagine across your chest, up in the air, straight out, reaching down to touch your toes, reaching behind for your wallet, et cetera. the arm moves greatly.
the palm up, supine. pronation the hand down. when a pathologist looks at the boned the autopsy table he can only determine right to left, vice versa, up down vice versa, back forward vice versa based on the anatomic position. when you have multiple shots somebody moving whether he's coming at the officer, running way from the officer, the officer chasing him or whatever, then the arm can have been in different positions. so on ascertaining whether or not the shots were all fired from the front based upon the wounds of the arm i would be very careful at this time. with regard to the wounds of the head, one of the wounds was described as being on the top of the head. i know of no further measurements on that or even the
trajectory of that. >> or the bullet that went through the eye, through the face, through the jaw and to the collar bone. that indicates he would have been leaning forward when he was shot, no? >> yes, exactly. the shot that went in around the eye and came down exited from the jaw and into the clavicle that's perpendicular to the ground. 6'2" guy the only way that shot was fired if he was standing up if a guy was high up in a tree or from a building. that wasn't the case. michael brown was falling over. so when you bend at the waist and you take your top trunk down, making it parallel to the ground then a wound that moves in that direction becomes parallel to the ground and when you get back up in a sitting position it's perpendicular to the ground. that shot was fired when michael brown was already falling to the ground. those two shots to the head and face were the shots that killed him particularly the one in the
brain. the ones in the arm were survivable. no big deal. there's a lot of explaining to do by this officer. why did he continue to shoot. that was the threat. as far as i know he michael brown was holding nothing at all, not even a cell phone or a bottle of soda that somebody thought maybe that's a gun or a weapon. >> we're waiting, obviously, to hear his story which we haven't. sorry to interrupt you. i want to get to some video we've just gotten in from ferguson, missouri. this is of, we believe, a photojournalist working for a photo agency. he has cameras i think peculiar all one swung over his shoulder and being escorted from the scene. we don't know why. we know some of the authorities there on the ground in ferguson, st. louis county police, tom fuentes come in here and tell me
what you're seeing. seems like the rules have been changing. >> they have been changing but we don't know specifically in this case. the journalist might have lost his temper. >> we don't know that. >> i don't want to comment on that. getting back to taup there's a couple of critical issues here and one is this has kind of been a half baked autopsy. the medical examiner or two pathologists said they did not have access to the clothing. that's critical. because if you have a point blank shot into somebody's chest let's say or arm or face the clothing will be scorched. it will have powder burns. muzzle flash burns on the clothing and it may not be able to tell if you're shooting through clogt. >> if your hands are up your shirt should be raised. >> it doesn't tell you whether or not the shot was from six inches or 30 feet. that's critical of where the first shot goes in. he was wearing a baseball hat. did the shot go through that. secondly with the arms, this is
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because of the looting. sense mike brown was killed nine days ago, these are scenes. watching the video feed from home as a crowd with no apparent remorse looted his business. >> when they couldn't break in, they start shooting. >> muzzle flashes are seen, then looters ransacked the liquor and cigarette cabinets. later, two women attempt to set the business on fire. >> at 10:00, close the store. at 10:15 they did this. >> he said he cannot recover. he and his 33-year-old son are could be fused and angry and sad. >> it doesn't make any sense any more. it is not even about that. >> the thing is, they say they want justice for mike brown. is this justice? i don't understand what justice is this.
>> for store owners around furgason, curfews and police presence has done little to protect them. so much of the focus on this store is on what happened it michael brown and on the mil military like action by police. >> how much have you lost tens of thousands? >> way more than that. >> hundreds of thousands? >> yes. >> abrahim left in the first gulf war and are happy to be here. he knew mike brown. looters and criminals have hijacked the protests at times and now the lively hoods of the store owners who provide important services to furgason are threatened. >> i don't want it mix up looters with protesters because all week long the protesters have been out here peacefully. >> warning that media should not
mischaracterize furgason either. >> we have people coming out just to buy something just to help out. i'm so thankful. these are my heroes. >> so many of the stores are now boarded up, like they are waiting for a hurricane or maybe one just past. of course, the disaster here wasn't natural, it was man-made. this store was looted. coincidentally, said to be the store where mike brown stole cigars just before he was shot down. it is important to note, locals say, that these are the only the actions of a few. >> i want the attention to go to people outside, sweeping the streets every morning. neighbors coming out of their homes just to clean up their community. everybody coming from all over missouri just to help out. >> for now, the threat of
with an eye this evening. once the sun goes down, what happens in streets furgason. >> reporter: that's right. there are two issues, really. one, is what press enwill the looters and rioters have this eveni evening. the cops and others say they are not from furgason. they are from outside taking advantage of the protest. the second is what. s between the protest and a community leader just drove by, a pastor in a police car, warning the police will give one warning it people tonight. they are allowed to walk in protest, not allowed to stand in protest. if they disobey that one warning, they will be arrested. we have seen a number of arrest already in the last few hours, standing here of people not moving. whether a photographer or protesters and being arrested, it is already getting very intense. i'll have more coverage on this later this evening on cnn. >> all right, jake. we know you will be watching there from the ground in
furgason, missouri. thank you so much for watching us here in "the situation room." erin burnett "outfront" start right now. "outfront" next. major developments on the ground in furgason, missouri. police arrest another journalist moments ago. live in furgason. plus bomb shell results from the michael brown autopsy. was the unarmed teen running away from the officer or did he go after him? and the president on the defense of more airstrikes in iraq. let's go "outfront." good evening everyone. tensions are rising to note in furgason,